BS with Bob Schmidt

E13 Chip Lutz Get Past the Crap


Things you’ll learn in this episode of the BS With Bob Schmidt Podcast.

1- It is you.  You have been the single biggest barrier to move and pass any crap in your life.  Stop holding yourself back.

2- Get over the self-doubt, we say things to ourselves as human beings wouldn’t say to our worst enemies

3- Emotions are contagious.

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Transcript of BS With Bob Schmidt Podcast “E13 Chip Lutz Get Past the Crap (Lead Yourself First, Bounce Back and get Shit Done) ”

Bob Schmidt: 00:00 Retired naval officer, leadership speaker, consultant, and author of the book. Get past the crap chip Lutz. Joining me on the a bs with Bob podcast. Chip. Love the name of the book. Get past the crap. I think we’ve all got crap in our lives that we’ve got to get past.
Chip Lutz: 00:15 We will have a lot of crap together. Deal where the reason I wrote the book was that her best friend overcame all these obstacles to it seems to me. I was just like, what’s the average guys have crap three day and I was like, you know, we need a book for the rest of us.
Bob Schmidt: 00:35 And so that’s basically what made you write the book is that you realize that we’ve all got our proverbial crap to get over and get through.
Chip Lutz: 00:43 Absolutely. Especially as leaders because now you have your own craft, your people’s gratitude. Charge them, but you know you’d like to separate yourself from your own crap in your own life when you’re coming to work, but you can’t because you’re a whole person. You know whether your kids are unruly and you got that call. Your wife is mad because he spent too much work. You’re kind of at work and me, we all get stuck. We have to deal with. So it was just a book for the rest of us.
Bob Schmidt: 01:07 How do you suggest we get rid of the crap in our lives? Because as we all know, we all do have way too much crap.
Chip Lutz: 01:15 Well, I’m going to say first off, see it by the book. I’m guessing solid strategy sitting there and they stay in the first get parked. The book is a big crap sandwich at different times in our lives and we basically have three decisions and you can take when you know, we get it, you know, we can, we can ignore it, but most of the time we, the crap in our lives, it just gets worse. Sit there and fester and get worse. I’ve been to anything in my life that I ignored that got any better. The second option we can take is to go and complain and you know, certainly if we’re sitting there nibbling and complaining, you know, eventually might consume it, but we’re just making ourselves more musical brain to process even though people around us might be, or eight, they’re like, oh yeah, so we tap on the crap sandwich.
Chip Lutz: 02:01 Truthfully, they just wants you to shut up and take option three, which is just take a big bite and you push through it, you know, take option three, push through it wherever you’re face to face it, head on to be. That would be, you know, maybe you’re not shifting into more positive perspective. A lot of times, you know, we’re looking at something that might be negative, but for me I tried to twist around like, all right, this is a really crappy situation. What’s the positive in the situation? You know, what can you maybe didn’t learn out of this? How can I find a mean? A little meaning, you know, throughout the process, you know, for me and you know, that might be a little bit of spice in there, you know? So yeah, I would agree with you on that. Adds a little spice, a little salt to my craft center.
Bob Schmidt: 02:44 I’m just looking at it in a different light or a, you know, like you said, toasting it or heating it up or doing something a little different. We’ll make it maybe even seem more palatable if you, if you will. Absolutely. So how did you go from being a navy guy, retired navy officer, uh, to, to speak and then to write a book?
Chip Lutz: 03:05 I would say the natural kind of fell into it in a way in that, um, when I was stationed in Kansas and Kansas who knew we were there. We are, but I was the only navy in Kansas. So anytime there was a get together for world war two beds or any kind of navy thing, then I would always be invited to come speak and just pretty much the same way when I was in Milwaukee and then I was teaching some graduate classes and leadership and organizational behavior. And so I, you know, I knew all the strategies three wise and I knew how to apply them because I’d actually been in real leadership positions and uh, I found out people spoke and I was like, what do you need, you know, like, speak for living. Well, my only discernible skills as I can, I can speak, so we’ll be try that out. So, you know, I tried it out and um, you know, I’ve been speaking for 10 years since I retired from the navy. It’s been a lot of fun.
Bob Schmidt: 03:56 How do you get over that fear of getting up in front of a group of people?
Chip Lutz: 03:59 Um, what’s funny is that even after 10 years, I still get the butterflies before I go on stage because, you know, you never know, every crowd is different. Every group is different. So I’m always going through like, you know, the best way to connect with the group, you know, how do I build rapport with the group? So it’s really just know, almost like saying take naps or three, just powering through first couple sentences knowing what you’re going to say, how you going to build rapport, and then just, you know, going through and, you know, also speaking with authenticity on things you really know. And I know that the things that, uh, early on in my career when somebody would ask me like, Hey, can you do a presentation on this? I’ll be like, yeah, I can do that. And then it was like, it wasn’t really as authentic because I’d maybe didn’t have the knowledge base that I did on other things. So for now it’s, you know, I, I stick within my wheelhouse and things that I know about leadership, teamwork, you know, resiliency. Those are the things that I know I practice, I’ve got experience in until it comes through a little more authentic. It helps you to decrease the nerves a little bit.
Bob Schmidt: 04:59 Well, I’ll tell you what ever want anybody to, you know, give you the Kudos or whatever. I’m reading your testimonials on the back of the book. And my favorite one is the chip is my favorite, but then I read who I read, who wrote it, and I’m like, she must not have any other kids,
Chip Lutz: 05:14 youngest, the youngest of six kids. So for the listeners is going to tip, is my favorite. And Got Sandy left shifts mom. And uh, I told her I to put that in there. She thought it was hilarious because when I programmed her cell phone, I put my name in his favor even though there’s six of us. And uh, so, so, uh, a j, I sent her a copy of the book and she got it. She’s like, Oh, you just did this dear to your brother.
Bob Schmidt: 05:39 My brothers aren’t going to read anything that I know they probably want it to be honest. It probably won’t.
Chip Lutz: 05:48 Is that when you’re the youngest, it doesn’t make the difference of what you do. You’re always going to be the little brother that you can cure cancer, but you’re still going to be the upfront.
Bob Schmidt: 05:56 Uh, you know, it’s funny is. But my youngest brother is five years younger than I am. And same deal. It doesn’t matter. He could be, he could be the first man to do whatever, like you said, and it’s like still, you’re still brian. You’re still, you’re still small. Fry Bri. That’s who you are.
Chip Lutz: 06:11 Yeah. We’re excited about it and I gave it a copy call. My brother’s for Christmas. I’m never going to read this.
Bob Schmidt: 06:21 You know what you should’ve said as well. You probably don’t know how to read. I could probably give you the book on tape if you’d like, if it makes it easier for you.
Chip Lutz: 06:28 But he’s a smart guy. He’s an engineer. He’s an older brother.
Bob Schmidt: 06:32 The first chapter of your book chip makes me laugh. So got crap. We all do. What’s a w? Let’s go through. Let’s go through the book and the different titles and uh, and what we can learn from each chapter.
Chip Lutz: 06:44 We are kind of hit on, you know, as far as like, you know, we all, we all got crap. Sometimes it’s monumental and sometimes it’s just the natural irritants everyday. But you know, whether it’s, you know, everybody faces, but sometimes we just don’t want to talk about, you know, think if I share this, you know, people still be doing this with me as a loser or you know, they’re not going to say again as good as they are, you know, starting, you know, I like most people had been through pretty much everything. Whether it’s a crappy coworker, crappy boss, you know, financial issues with down business, relationship issues, divorce, you know, I have four kids my own bringing them up. I mean just a day to day trials and tribulations that we all face sometimes we don’t really want to know, want to acknowledge or to talk about. I mean, so like for me I was really, really open and whole book about the different things that I’ve gone through this whole, you know, hopefully it would resonate with people, letting them know that they’re not alone. Everybody goes to this stuff. Everybody and you know, you can, you can get through on the, on the other side,
Bob Schmidt: 07:43 page 26 is the visual craphole meter scale. I’m actually makes me laugh. I mean, I think that makes everybody laugh and when you can actually be a professional and talk about poop or talk about crap, I think that you’ll make people kind of giggle at the same time as teaching my lessons
Chip Lutz: 08:03 when you go to the doctor and they ask you how you feel when you got that little scale of unhappy face to happy face and I was like, you really, there should be like a crappy scale on you know, what you’re facing in your life. So I have a nephew that’s part of, he is a custom poop emojis for me on that. So I said this is what I’m looking for. I was wondering basically saying everything’s crap. Tasks and everything in your life is awesome and he didn’t want the thumbs up. So he did a really good time to get a little carried away with because he’s got a little warped sense of humor. But you know, after a few revisions we’ve got it down to what we wanted to get it down.
Bob Schmidt: 08:36 No Way. Talk about warped sense of humor. Your title of your book chip is get past the crap and you’ve got a picture of a, a plunger on the cover of your book. I do. I would think that maybe you have the sense of humor.
Chip Lutz: 08:48 Well, we all have. He’s got that, uh, that brain where it he’ll put stuff together and uh, either one of my other books was called the laboratory leader
Bob Schmidt: 08:59 and uh, do you live in Kohler, Wisconsin.
Chip Lutz: 09:10 It has a picture of a toilet on the front and it says, you know, leadership strategy strategies guaranteed to get you moving was the subtitle of the book and um, but he did some, uh, some custom, a custom graphics for that book and some of the picture. I was like, where does your mind come up with the stuff? I mean this is so random, but social areas like he drew a picture of me riding a Unicorn and it just so I could select every time I see the picture it makes me laugh. So he’s very, very talented
Bob Schmidt: 09:41 chapter to get past the crap with purpose. How do we go about getting past the crap with purpose?
Chip Lutz: 09:47 Well, I mean it’s having an overall strategy. I mean sometimes the strategy is just getting, you know, through what you’re facing for the day, but I find if I look a little bit deeper and thinking about where my overall goal or strategy [inaudible] I’ll tell you that, you know, any strategy has three basic components and knowledge where you’re at and knowledge where you’re going and some kind of pass on how you’re going to get there. And so if I’m thinking about, you know, the, the overall war, you know, more, you know, maybe, you know, in the end, you know, my purpose is, you know, my family and I never make my purpose like an individual because people are flaky but a families a different type of thing as far as like, you know, looking at, looking at it as a whole, have something a little bit higher than just one person.
Chip Lutz: 10:31 You know, I can look at it, you know, then I look at the crack in my life and you know, you know what, I’ve got to go through this because this is my overall purpose. You know, this stuff isn’t really as important as the overall thing that I’m, you know, I’m striving to attain. Maybe it might be that big goal, she got whatever, but it helps me to kind of minimize some of that crap that, you know, this is just a day, just a moment. Just one little thing in your overall picture of where I’m going.
Bob Schmidt: 10:53 So in each of your chapters, you’ve got the rings of the access to the see the set, the possibilities. Now what’s the purpose of that?
Chip Lutz: 11:02 That is to take a moment to reflect on what’s going on. And I made it the acronym asked her because it’s in alignment with the book, you know, assess your situation, you know, set up, plans it through. A lot of times we get to the last one, we don’t, uh, we don’t see it through. We might assess our situation. You know, where this is where I’m at. OK, this is well want to do, but we never take the action step. We never take that option three of like, all right, this is where I’m going, this is what I need to do. You actually having some action steps that you write down on, you know, OK, well this is where I’m going with this is where I want to be, what are the steps I need to get to get there? And that’s where I, you know, in the middle of that I haven’t, you know, possibilities. We all know what’s probable. It’s probably I’m going to sit exactly where I’m at and let’s actually do something. Um, so, uh, but I don’t know what’s going to be possible if I actually take an action.
Bob Schmidt: 11:50 All right? The, uh, get past the crap by being a thinker. And I think being a positive thinker is, is a positive step,
Chip Lutz: 12:03 you know, stepped foot on the battlefield. So, you know, we’re thinking, we’re thinking crappy thoughts. Chances are we’re going to get a crappy, you know, what can we do? And for me, sometimes I just need one thing to help me make that rapid mental adjustments so I can be a little more positive. So I might, if I look at the situation positively, grapes, if I can’t, then I need to take like a mental break. And for me, the way I’ll go, I’ll watch a funny movie just to kind of like separate my mind from going like will Ferrell pretty much anything will ferrell, older movies anyhow is it will make me laugh. Not The new one. I think it was the one where they were in a casino house that I wasn’t that 90 minutes of my life back.
Bob Schmidt: 12:46 Yeah. But it’s not a very good movie at all.
Chip Lutz: 12:50 Know some of his older son. I was like old school. I mean I can’t watch old school without laughing. Ain’t no, excuse me 100 times. Just count it. And Nights. I mean, so those are the things that I’ll just take that mental respite so I can, you know, maybe see things from a new perspective or you know, reach out to those people that actually, you know, our, I would say positive influences on my life to make me laugh. And you know, my brother, it doesn’t make a difference while I’m going through at four brothers. I have one that’s my best friend and we’d been through a lot together and we all make each other laugh. And just one of those things, it’s just, you know, could help me shift my perspective a little bit.
Bob Schmidt: 13:28 I mean, I think it’s good to have that kind of person in your life anyway. A brother, a friend, a spouse, a, you know, somebody that you can bounce that you can bounce stuff off.
Chip Lutz: 13:40 Emotions are contagious. It’s, it’s a condition called emotional contagion. And they passed from person to person, both positive and negative. I mean, you can look at it like this. I mean, you know, you come home, you’re in a great mood, your spouses in a crappy mood, you know, she yells at you or he yells at you, your kid kicking the dog, like cat, cat runs away, cycle the motions. So if we’re thinking a much, you know, overall mood and also think about who we surrounding ourselves best, you know, for some stronger ourselves with, you know, negative people, you know, we can’t expect to have, you know, a positive, a positive outlook. But if we’re looking like, all right, this is where I’m at, I’m in keeping pilot. Doug, you know, who are the people that are going to lift my spirits?
Bob Schmidt: 14:24 Chapter four, get past the crap by paying attention. You mentioned now you walk in and your spouses in a bad mood, you know that you held the dog, the dog right on down the line. How do you notice those things? What, what are, what are some of the ways of paying attention to the spouse, the people from your family, the people you work with, the Jack Asses, texting and driving. How do you, how, how do you notice all of that stuff? Answer.
Chip Lutz: 14:51 Really. I don’t know if I ever been answered with a jackass. He’s texting you, driving it, but I got no control over that right there. Um, but then just paying attention to America. I’ve had a lot of crap in my life just because I’m not paying attention to things, you know, that, you know, if I’m really paying attention, I’m really working to be in the moment with that person that a lot of times where we were so set on what we have to say, you know, that’s, you know, that’s what we’re thinking about. You know, most people, everybody wants to be heard, but nobody really wants to listen and listening doesn’t have an agenda. So you know that you really have to just, you know, kind of be in the moment with that person and you know, listen for feelings, listen with empathy, you know, try to get off the spit out of the script in your head if you know what you want to say and just be there.
Bob Schmidt: 15:37 So the script in your head probably told you this math equation that’s got letters and numbers.
Chip Lutz: 15:42 Oh yeah, the one that has in there, that’s a actually a simple equation for a slow to speak. Slow to anger. So if I’m quick to listen, like I said, I’m being in the moment, you know, I’m choosing my words wisely. And then monitoring where my emotional state is because your anchors one of those things, you know that if I’m angry, I’m not hearing anything it person I’m talking to as angry, they’re not hearing anything good comes from that. So you know, if I need to take a break from that conversation so I can pay attention better, it’s setting those expectations. Say this is the time to talk about this, you know, let’s come back to like attendance when we’re both a little more calm. It just, you know, be mindful of what’s going on. Like I said, a lot of times, especially if you’ve been in one of those arguments where you just want to win
Bob Schmidt: 16:29 every single one of them, chip,
Chip Lutz: 16:32 you just want to, when you were to spike the ball, I bet you’ve been in those conversations where you actually agree with the person you’re arguing with. You just want to win so bad. You’re just like, I don’t care. I’m, I’m going to the Jaguar.
Bob Schmidt: 16:43 I have four children also every single day, every single day, my friend, 28 years, 28 years of being married, almost 50 years of being a child. A yes every day. Chip
Chip Lutz: 16:58 like that. I like that with you, right? Sometimes you might really agree with him, but he knows that what they’re doing is, uh, only bad idea that you did it yourself and you find yourself being a little bit hypocritical in tell them don’t do that. But um, you still have to.
Bob Schmidt: 17:13 That’s as I say, not as I do type of parenting right there.
Chip Lutz: 17:20 Do as I say, not as I did.
Bob Schmidt: 17:22 Yeah, exactly. But it makes a hell of a good story for later on in life.
Chip Lutz: 17:27 Yeah, that’s a good way to look at things that are true for truthfully. It helps me get through some of that crap because I’ll look at something like, it was really bad, you know, I think, you know what, in five years this is going to be hilarious story. I mean, hell, next week it might be hilarious story, you know, but right now it’s really not funny. So in my mind I’m going to go ahead a little bit and think, you know, what’s going to be funny about this?
Bob Schmidt: 17:46 Uh, so what does it, what does a Taco body movements
Chip Lutz: 17:48 you or body?
Bob Schmidt: 17:50 I share in the book the story about my son Ben. He kids always loved music, but when he was about 10, there was a song came on the radio by lips incorporated, called Funky town and uh, so, you know, he’s singing with it and it gets to a certain part of that song where they’re starting and talk about it, talk about it, talk about it, talk about it, and he’s just like singing super loud sort of song. He started singing Taco, Taco, Taco bout it. Great.
Chip Lutz: 18:19 Yeah. We don’t get examples, you know, uh, you know, here’s something wrong. And it happens every day at work. I’m just, every day in our personal lives, I mean, we’re talking to somebody, the errors or here’s, here’s something completely different from. We said, I mean, any conversation. I mean, there’s what said, what’s her, what’s meant. And very rarely do they align. I mean, you know, we all have different mindsets or we’re not really in the moment or you know, like I said, we’re not paying attention to what’s really going on. So those are the talking about it. Nobody moments in our lives where we don’t really hear what’s being said in conversation or we misinterpreted.
Bob Schmidt: 18:55 Has your use of the military, did that help you to become the leadership coach that you are?
Chip Lutz: 19:01 Well, absolutely. I mean like anything you’d go through in life. I mean every experience is a learning opportunity and what’s nice about the military anyhow, I mean, my experience was, is that as long as I kept saying I kept getting new opportunities, you know, and if I messed him up he was going to say, all right, we messed it up, what are we going to do different about it and you know, what we’re going to learn from it. And it was just, you know, it was a good learning experience for me and really kind of like forced me as a lifelong learner is that, you know, whatever I’m, you know, doing something and maybe it’s not going right. You know, just playing in my head was super awesome. But however, in execution it is failed miserably. What did I not do? Rights or what can I do differently next time? I mean, it was, um, I had the opportunity to work for some fantastic people. I mean, there were some jackals too, but um, I would just work for some really, really good people that took the time to invest themselves in me. And you know, my success as a leader, I think that any leader that’s our charge is to Kinda like pay that back to somebody invested in your success. You need to invest in somebody else’s success.
Bob Schmidt: 20:07 Oh, absolutely. All right. Chapter five says, get past the crap by being pliable. Crap is hard to get rid of.
Chip Lutz: 20:17 Sticks to this. You think about it like you have pretty much the same routine you follow every day.
Bob Schmidt: 20:24 Oh yeah, absolutely. I do every single day on the weekend. You know, the unfortunate thing is I get up at four during the week on weekends if I sleep until 6:30, I feel pretty, pretty blessed.
Chip Lutz: 20:35 Yeah. After 23 years in the navy, I still get up 4:00 in the morning, I still drink hot coffee. I’d say pretty much the same routine and what they can do. A lot of times it’s make us, you know, originally rigid and when somebody comes our way, you know, it might be an opportunity or it might be, you know, some other crap. We negate it. So, you know, bubbles was, you know, more about opening ourselves up to opportunity, open ourselves up to possibility and a lot of ways and you know, for me, playability of the practice and the practice, you know, constantly be mindful about what I’m doing, maybe how I can look at something differently if I’m doing things differently and I can see things differently, I’m going to see more of what’s out there. And then, um, maybe then just what I’m facing with this big crap sandwich.
Bob Schmidt: 21:22 Have you done any improv because a lot of your chapters about saying yes, that’s a big. That’s a big part of, uh, of Improv is yes. And so you can add, add to the situation.
Chip Lutz: 21:35 Yeah. I went through the, uh, I spent a year at second city after I retired from the navy, um, just to kind of get me out of the linear mindset. And it was really kind of fun when I was the oldest person in my class because everybody else was like 18, had dreams of being on Saturday night live, but it was the old guy in the class.
Bob Schmidt: 21:52 Let me ask this about being a nontraditional student because I too them. I’m a non traditional student. I actually graduate this year. I have one class left and I’m halfway and I’m halfway through that. And being a non-traditional student, I find that I, first of all, I was a better student than I was when I was a kid. But secondly that a, that a lot of the students look up to you because you’ve lived life and you’ve had the opportunities to go ahead and be successful in what it was that you were and you being in a retired from the military, I’m sure that a lot of those younger people looked up to you as you know, as a hero.
Chip Lutz: 22:21 Well, I’m still friends with a lot on facebook, so. Yeah, absolutely. I didn’t know if they looked at me as a hero, but certainly, you know, I have a little bit deeper conversations with a few of the younger ones then, um, then I probably would have had, if I was their age as far as, you know, what they were like, you know, going through what they were doing and yeah,
Bob Schmidt: 22:46 get off my lawn practice, practice, practice, kind of like getting to Carnegie Hall. How do you get past the crap with practice?
Chip Lutz: 22:55 We’re kind of bent on being happy, you know, it’s, you know, we’re guaranteed it, but, you know, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But we always put preconditions on it and I’ll be happy and I’ll be happy when I get this job when I get this new car. But happiness really is a practice. We have to practice every day. We have to look those things, that upper overall happiness, you know, finding things to be cleared before can, you know, upper happiness, um, you know, peanut for know being, um, doing things for other people can upper happiness, you know, instead of being in that negativity circle where that’s how you know, the crap is swinging around and step outside of it and you know, a practicing, you know, for other people. So you know, which will in the end and make yourself feel better. Shift your attitude a little bit.
Chip Lutz: 23:39 It’s helped me get past that frat. It’s really, you know, in the book or some research that was done by a professor from the University of California Riverside and we’re in, it’s really good book called happiness. But what she found in her research is that, you know, genetically 45 percent of our overall disposition and why it is genetically preconditioned that, you know, whether you know, positive person or a negative person and happy person. A happy person. I’m going to get that from our parents. Only five percent, five to 10 percent anyway, our circumstances, you know, the rest of it, nearly 50 percent or nearly, you know, 40 percent of the things that we could do to make herself more or less happy. Like, you know, one thing that can really, really devastate our overall happiness in life and you know, in a crappier quagmire is um, you know, ruminating about things that we couldn’t do.
Chip Lutz: 24:31 Right. You know, we say things to ourselves as human beings wouldn’t say to our worst enemies. You think about that. I mean, I’ve said stuff to myself that I would never say to somebody else simply because, you know, good, just good manners would dictate otherwise, but, you know, but they beat ourselves up pretty bad. So that was one thing that we can do to, you know, a torpedo, our overall happiness. So you have to, we shift that and we can say things and the more, you know, a little more positive, but we can, you know, practice gratitude, you know, practice the things that, you know, bring more happiness to our lives versus the practice. The things that a torpedo
Bob Schmidt: 25:06 get past the crap with play. What do you mean by that? Is getting out there and having fun.
Chip Lutz: 25:12 You think about it like the very beginning of the book as far as you know when you were a kid and they rang the bell for recess. I mean that was the best part of the day. You just see a, it was like 15 minutes to an adulterated, you know, fun for the most part. Unless like you said, you said those things he didn’t want to say or you shouldn’t have said they’re going to beat you up on the playground. But you know, as adults we forget who we were. So focused on getting things done. We’re still focused on, you know, well, mission, all these responsibilities. We just forget to enjoy herself in the process. I mean, this isn’t a dress rehearsal, this is the only life we have and we should be adding the element of fun to open up, play the element of humor in everything we do. Think about, you know, I’m a veteran, say from our conversations you enjoy pretty much most of the way you’ve designed to your life for you.
Bob Schmidt: 26:06 Yeah. It’s not the way that most people do it. I
Chip Lutz: 26:11 know, you know, most of you know, they, they might have this job that they might not look like and people they don’t really like sucks all the joy. Well, one of the things you could do to bring joy back into, you know, the, the, this work, you know, it might just be as simple as, you know, having that picture of the time you went on vacation on your desk and you take that mental vacation. I thought, Oh man, that was awesome. You know, apply for me. I’m going to be more productive, be more innovative. I’m gonna, you know, to be more loyal to my organization if I’m enjoying what I’m doing and who I’m around. So maybe we need to get rid of some of the confines in which we sometimes think on what work is and not think of work as being the obstacle. Play. Thinking about, you know, how we can bring to play into our work,
Bob Schmidt: 27:05 because life’s too short and I’ve got this quote that I came up with many years ago is life’s too short to be married to someone you don’t love to work at a job. You don’t like to drink shitty beer. That was my quote that I came up with and honestly if you think about it, life is too short because if you do those things that you don’t like to do, I get it. We all have to do those types of things, but why not enjoy the things that we do that we have control over and if you don’t like the things you have control over and you’re doing them anyway, don’t do that anymore.
Chip Lutz: 27:36 Well, I’m going to survive. Is trying to control things. We have no control over my not my circus. Not my monkeys is. I spent all my time ruminating about things that I can’t control. I mean, what’s the point? I’m going to focus on stuff that I can’t control because I focused on stuff I can’t control. What I can’t control is going to control me.
Bob Schmidt: 28:00 What do you do, chip, to decompress
Chip Lutz: 28:02 little mental vacations on, uh, you know, things that I liked. I said it’ll decompress. Um, humor is a big part of my life. So I like anything funny, whether it’s seeing a funny movie, funny show, be with people that are funny. Those are things that helped me a lot, a lot.
Bob Schmidt: 28:23 I liked that. Getting past, getting past the crap by taking the pledge. I would’ve thought it would’ve been about taking the plunge.
Chip Lutz: 28:33 That’s a good idea. I shouldn’t have done that. Not to just a pleasant. You have to get in your own way and I can, you know, I had been my single biggest barrier to move and pass any crap in my life, you know, whether it’s a fear that’s holding me back to me back. Um, a negative thoughts that have been holding me back is that, you know, I’ve given myself that, you know, I’m going to take care of me. You know, part of this book, you know, it’s about self leadership, but it’s really about self leadership for leaders. Truthfully, being attractive people can be a huge class. I mean, it is, you really have to have a one to serve, but you’re with that. We’re still really hard on ourselves about things we can worry about things too much and that we have to take care of ourselves first if we’re really going to be on point for our team that if I’m, you know, I’m not taking care of me, then I’m not going to be on point and be able to take care of my team as respectability is. I really should be, you know, so, you know, I can be my own biggest barrier in, you know, moving forward, reach a goal, moving forward to um, you know, take care of the things I need to take care of taking care of, you know, my team going to pledge to do that. And it’s, it’s counter intuitive to what we’d say. Oh No, you got to know serve all these other people first. So I know you’ve really got to take care of you first.
Bob Schmidt: 29:51 How do you put it all together and get past the crap? Because I think that’s a big question that everybody wants to know. How do we get past the crap every single day?
Chip Lutz: 30:01 Well, I mean, like I said at the very beginning, it’s about taking action option three and saying basically kind of like twist [inaudible], twisted sister song. I ain’t gonna take it anymore. I mean I’m actually going to do something that’s not going to ignore it. I’m not going to nibble and complaint. I’m gonna. I’m gonna do something and might not be pretty, you know today, but I know that I’m going to plow through. So I mean that’s what it comes down to is, you know, they said, you know, doing, doing something that’s not always something, nothing. That’s nothing. Zero Times zero is zero sometimes what, you know might not always turn out exactly how I wanted, but I’m doing something that’s going to take you somewhere.
Bob Schmidt: 30:39 I see you have your personal affirmations in the, in the book as well. I have a choice. I can choose to let the crowd control me or I can look for ways to take control to go through and do those, do to go through and do those on a daily basis.
Chip Lutz: 30:53 Love to say that I, I’m a, I am mindful every day of what’s going on around me. I don’t go through a list of affirmations every day. I’m not, I’m not that good. I know people that do do that
Bob Schmidt: 31:05 chip lots is my, uh, as my guest book is called get past the crap now comes to crappy questions of portion of the, of the podcast. So what’s your most useless talent?
Chip Lutz: 31:21 Um, with this talent is I make sense of my life through television and I reference quotes all the time from TV shows that nobody knows anything about but are always funny to me. And in high school I had all the words to the musical, the music man memorized.
Bob Schmidt: 31:42 How does chip like Professor Harold Hill?
Chip Lutz: 31:48 So many ways what? It’s funny, when Robert Preston who did the character the best in my opinion, would you say was such a classic, but he’s just smooth, you know, and I don’t think I’m that smooth and connect with people and talking to people, but that’s where I want to be. Sunday, we’re good with people whose dreams the money for. And this trouble right here,
Bob Schmidt: 32:10 you repeated. Did that help you pick up checks?
Chip Lutz: 32:18 Not at all. Not at all. Brother passed with trouble in river city.
Bob Schmidt: 32:23 Get past the crap. Get Schmidt done. Lead yourself first. Bounce back. Charles. Chip, what’s the author of the book? How do we find your book? Chip?
Chip Lutz: 32:34 I ain’t going to get past the You go there. Uh, you can, uh, get the book. You can also sign up for some additional content and it’s some, uh, videos that are additional content that aren’t in the book. Just so everybody look kind of like a special bonus.